Monday, March 27, 2006

S2Ep16 - The Whole Truth (Sun's second flashback) - 03/22/06

Hello my dear friends,

I took a short vacation and have not had a heck of a lot of time to do my typical "research" on last week's show, "The Whole Truth." So instead, I pasted in more posts than usual, as they do a good job of summarizing the main issues.

Before I get into the specific topics, here's a post that captured the overall feeling on the boards about Sun's second flashback episode (and I apologize because a lot of the posts this time around were profanity-laced, as well as crude in parts because of some of the subject matter (you'll see what I'm talking about soon enough)):

- "Basically, despite not doing that much, this episode was FUN. The writers remembered that. Charlie redeemed himself in my eyes by being such a bastard to AnaL...the whole gun thing was just priceless. I was laughing my -ss off. Henry Gale is one scary motherf-cker, no matter whether or not he is evil. That entire scene at the end was just...the guy's sly, and he's smart. I hope he's an other just because he's gonna kill them all. The best part? Him channelling the audience. Trust. Questions. My annoyance with that is that they are clearly mocking us, but at least it's with a decent, mysterious character."

When I was watching this episode, I said to my friends at the end, "Hmmmm, I enjoyed that, but I don't think I'm going to have a lot to say about in on the blog." But after going through a few boards, there actually was more to discuss than I originally thought. Yay for us...


"HEY! YOU! GET OUTTA MY HATCH!" (SET TO ROLLING STONES)

The posts about the Jack/Locke shower scene (Jack gets out of shower, neglects to cover himself with the towel (dries his hair instead), and Locke is there, shaving) were SO vulgar that I couldn't even bring myself to paste any of them in. Suffice it to say that people are sick of the Jack and Locke competition for Alpha Male status, as called out in the episode by Ana Lucia: "Jack and Locke are a little too busy worrying about Locke and Jack."

Even though you know that I love me some Locke, I really can't stand the constant bickering and one-upping, either, because it's just leading them to do stupid things. The biggest thing that worried me, however, was Locke's ownership-mentality about the Hatch ("... Right now there's a man sitting in a room in my hatch and I want him out.").

Here are a few choice posts on the topic:

- "Locke's "My hatch" is very telling about his thought process. More towards his "chosen" mentality. Very subtle but effective."
- "Hooray for More Assertive Locke's return! He doesn't need to ask Jack if Ana-Lucia should interrogate the prisoner. He doesn't have to ask Jack if he can shave while Jack showers. He doesn't have to ask Jack for permission to look at Jack's penis. And in retaliation, Jack gets assertive, too: he decides he doesn't have to ask permission to take Henry out for a bowl of Dharma-Os (love it!)."
- "This episode hit me early on with something strange: when Locke saw Ana Lucia coming his way, he made a remark to her about "running like the devil is chasing her..." When Desmond and Jack first met on the stadium steps in "Man of Science, Man of Faith," Desmond asked Jack why he was "running like the devil is chasing him". HMMM - has Locke been spending so much time down in the hatch that he's starting to channel Desmond?" (e: That is correct, that is the exact same line Desmond used with Jack in the stadium, I noticed it too)


KATE LOOKED GOOD... SUN LOOKED GOOD...

I just wanted you all to know that I'm not ALWAYS negative about Kate. Although I am a tad worried that her mention of having taken a pregnancy test before somehow means we will have to ensure another Kate Flashback. But in the meantime... her tan and her wind-blown hair looked cute and there were many comments regarding this topic on the boards. However, there were even more comments about Sun's lingerie scene at the beginning...


... BUT THE BOYS LOOKED BETTER.

... But the greatest number of comments were about the Lost Boys. If I were to even start pasting in all of the references to Shirtless Jin, Sawyer and Jack, I would never finish this write-up. I was in disbelief at the attention this topic received. Though I agree that they were all lookin' fine.

Here is an article on DDK's hotness.


DEAR GOD

I think TPTB having Sawyer reading "Are you there God? It's me, Margaret" (of all books) was a blatant shout-out to the board peeps to say: "You guys, CHILL. This is definitely a book that means nothing and gives away NO CLUES about the show!"

But guess what, people still tried to find clues - no lie. I spared you those posts. But in case you don't believe me, here's just one: "I believe in the book Margaret was investigating several different religions - do you think that means anything?"


CHARLIE WILL ALWAYS BE A HOBBIT TO ME

Charlie finally won back some fans this episode with his return to snottiness. I must admit, I laughed out loud at his "fake-out" move when giving the gun back to Ana Lucia - oh... no.... wait... Sayid.

On the Hobbit tip:
- "And did anyone else have a "what about second breakfast?" LOTR moment when Charlie came hopping in with papayas for breakfast?" (e: Uh, OF COURSE I did!)
- "I liked surly Charlie more than I would have expected--and the papaya breakfast was such a hobbit moment."
- "Charlie pulling a "Merry" with an armful of natural food."

Not on the Hobbit tip:
- "Charlie gets major points for his little “Ok, I’ll give you the gun…nope, kidding, I’m giving it to Sayid” maneuver. That was such an “oh SNAP” moment. Hilarious."
- "As for Charlie knowing about Henry and not blabbing it all around, I really think he's turned into Darth Hoodie. I think that Claire's rejection has changed him, and that there will be many more surprising and uncharacteristic behaviors from him. Having a gun and not making a fuss about it (my impression was that it was a secret even from Sayid) is not very pre-Claire-dump Charlie. So, maybe this post-Claire-dump Charlie - the Charlie who is willing to faux-abduct Sun - can keep secrets. Secrets are knowledge, and knowledge is power. And I think right now he has a hunger for power that's even more compelling than his hunger for what Virgin Mary keeps where the sun doesn't shine."


DID SHE OR DIDN'T SHE?

I have to say that I ended the episode leaning toward the "Sun cheated" side... but after reading the boards, I am leaning the other way. I challenge you all to read the posts below and let me know if you think she cheated (or if you never even did)... Definitely leave me comments on this one - I can be swayed either way still. I think. So wishy-washy. One thing was definitely agreed upon by everyone: her English tutor's nickname is "bald dude."

But BEFORE getting into the many posts I pasted in on this topic, I will bring up three major points. The first one I didn't see covered anywhere on the boards, so at some point I will probably have to post about it to get reactions (typically I'm actually just a lurker, believe it or not):

1) Near the end of Season One, there was a scene with Sun, Shannon and Claire, when they were having a conversation about fate. And it was Sun who said, "Do you think we're being punished? For the secrets we kept, the lies we told..." I remember thinking at that point: "Hmmm, I know that Sun was going to leave Jin and had secretly learned English, but it seems like she's alluding to more than that in her own life, because all in all she doesn't seem right now like a bad person." Now when I think about those lines, I wonder if she was alluding to her possible affair.

2) Each season is about 40 or so days on the island (currently they are around day 58 or so)... so if she was to carry a baby full-term... that seems like a risky move on the writers' parts... not so sure the series would still be around. Horrible thought, I know.

3) This is a point mentioned below as well, but the question in my mind right now is WHY would she tell Jin that he is infertile if she hadn't decided to tell him "the whole truth"? What point would that serve? If she was going to lie about the father of the baby, why tell the truth about Jin's infertility? This is one of the things that swayed me to the "she didn't cheat" camp.

With those points in mind, here are additional thoughts from the boards to ponder:

- "So, did Sun cheat on Jin with her just-short-of-gay-friend or not? I think we're supposed to think she did, but I don't think she did. I think it's the island craziness that makes Locke walk that makes Jin's boys swim!"
- "I predict that Sun and Jin will be having a Sun Jr, rather then a Jin Jr.; who else is Aaron going to marry?"
- "Even though Jin is unbelievably studly, I was waiting for one last flashback to Sun and that bald dude post coital. I believe Dharma is responsible for Jin's new super sperm."
- "Jack said... "I'm the last one to give advice about that" to Sun on the baby - there is way more to that statement than that. He played it like a throwaway, but I bet it isn't, not with what we've seen in his back story."
- "I think Sun is lying. But I don't want to believe it."
- "As for the A story (Sun/Jin), it was good, I think, because it was a story about two characters who we have truly seen grow, and it GOOD ways, during this show, and I think that this is just good payoff. It's just nice to see that Jin and Sun are working out, and that DDK and YK are knocking it out of the park each week. And I'm glad they didn't go (apparently) the cheating route."
- "I want to know if Sun was lying. I agree I think we were supposed to think she had the affair, but she probably didn't. She was telling the truth, that was the point of this episode."
- "It was nice to see Jin still has some anger issues. Scary, but good continuity."
- "--So, I wonder if Sun is telling the truth? What I love about Lost is that while it’s possible she’s lying and did cheat on Jin, it’s also very possible that the island has decided that they should have a baby. If it can make Locke walk, it can make Jin fertile."
- "I don't and won't believe the baby is the bald dude's. Could Sun survive a pregnancy after a plane crash?"
- "Hasn't it been about 55 or 60 days since they crashed? (e: YES, 58) If Sun had been planning on ditching Jin at the Sydney airport, completely possible it's Bald Dude's Baby. She coulda survived the crash pregnant, because in the news a few months back was a skydiver that crashed on her HEAD, broke ribs and learned she was pregnant..."
- "...although it was left way too ambiguous whether or not Sun was lying. Mouth says no but facial expressions say...maybe?"
- "I couldn't figure out why Sun was so reluctant towards the idea of having a baby, in general. I think there is a lot more to this story."
- "Clearly the father of Sun's baby is Alvar Hanso. Or even worse ... Donald Trump!"
- "If she was going to lie to him about the paternity, why tell him he was sterile? If she's lying, she might as well lie completely. There's no reason to tell him he's sterile unless she wants to tell him the whole truth."
- "Put me in the camp of believing it's Baldy's baby. I think Sun was on the verge of telling Jin "the whole truth" and then realized she does love the guy, he loves her, and they're stuck on this island for maybe forever. Why take the advice of a hypocritical asshat like Jack when everyone can be happy with a lie? Could an embryo survive the crash? How did any of them survive?"
- "If Sun was just now feeling lightheaded and nauseous, she was only a few days pregnant. No way would those symptoms suddenly appear after 60ish days. I don't believe she would have cheated either. She was completely focused on escaping and besides, wouldn't she have been terrified what Jin or her father would do to a lover? No, they were just friends. She told Jin the "whole truth" because she nearly lost him once before because of a secret. She layed everything out on the table. No more secrets, no more guilt."
- "I don't think Sun's lying. When Jack was checking out the test result and said she was indeed pregnant, she said it was impossible. As in, it's impossible because Jin is sterile."
- "Someone may have already said this, but Sun probably looked guilty at the end because she never told Jin she was planning on leaving him, not because she had an affair. Her lies have been more ommissions of information, rather than misinformation. If she said she has never slept with anyone else I believe her."


FOR MY NERDY PEEPS

This group of postings, representing what can only be described as an utter outcry on the boards about the grammatical mistake in the Korean subtitles, sums up WHY I love reading the boards. Before you tell me that closed-captioning always has mistakes (which it does), remember that this was NOT closed-captioning, but rather the subtitles on the show itself.

If you could care less about this (though there ARE some hilarious posts below), skip to the next section.

If you do care, my nerdy brethren, know that you are in good company:

- "The subtitles said "You're husband" instead of "Your husband" during the conversation twixt Sun and the doctor."
- "The sloppy captioning of when they were speaking Korean is bugging the shit out of me ("you're husband"?). GAH."
- "Are you f-ing kidding me? "You're husband." That is disgraceful."
- "I must give props to other grammar nerds on this talkback that spotted the HORRENDOUS your-you're error. Shameful for a show that is one of its network's tentpegs."
- "I think they're (or is it "their"? or "there"?) messing with our heads again... ; )(Sorry to be so picky about the grammar thing... I'm still reeling from the subtitle mistake...)"
- "Do they not have proofreaders in their budget??"
- "Also, as a professional copyeditor, I seethed at that typo in the subtitles. They had better correct that for the DVD!!!"
- "The "you're husband" was bugging the crap out of me too. Try harder, Closed Captioning Monkeys."
- "HOLY HELL Damon/J.J. - fire the subtitlers immediately. Kwan? You're father? Horrifying. HORRIFYING."
- "So much going on and everyone's worried about the captioning? It's a good thing y'all aren't watching "24", where the Prez declared "Marshall Law" last week."
- "Is it possible the you're/your captioning problem was done just to upset the anal retentive people on this board?"
- "If so, that's a terrible thing for the people who do the captions (whoever they may be) to do. The last thing the English language needs is a super-popular television show that many high-schoolers watch to be perpetuating such breaches of basic grammar. "
- "I don't even watch Lost, but I am a writer by trade and therefore a huge grammar dork. When the "you're husband" came on, my fiance called me in from the other room to see it. It bothered me so much that I went to ABC.com this morning and sent them an email complaint. I have enough to do editing people's terrible grammar without help from Lost. My email said: Dear ABC: I was horrified to see "You're husband. . . he works for your father" in the show's captioning (not closed captioning) of last night's episode. As one of the biggest shows on TV, Lost should be able to prevent such blatant errors from making it on air. The show has a massive audience, and kids (as well as many adults) have enough problems with proper English without seeing errors like that reinforced. ABC should issue a statement acknowledging and correcting the error. Thank you. I encourage fellow grammar geeks to do the same!
http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html"







HENRY GALE, YOU ARE ONE SCARY MOFO

As I mentioned above, while I liked this episode (I would've liked ANYTHING they aired that was new because it hadn't been on in so long)... I definitely thought it was kind of blah... that is, until the utterly bone-chilling speech by Mr. Gale at the end. I was literally squirming in my seat.

The "is he or isn't he an Other?" debate was the biggest issue on the boards, so I've pasted in many comments on the topic below. One thing that bothered me, however, was that a few episodes ago Henry made a POINT of mentioning how thin the walls/doors were... so much so that he actually shouted out to Jack and Locke at one point because he was following their conversation. However, in the two episodes since, characters on the outside of the cell have not been able to hear what's going on inside. Some chalk this up to Henry's Otherness and the fact that he must have superhuman hearing just like Ethan had superhuman strength. I'm not sure yet...

My take on Henry overall is that I think they're now making it TOO OBVIOUS for him to actually end up being an Other. I don't think he crashed on the island after going on a balloon trip with his wife, either, though. All I know for sure is that he gives me nightmares.

One small thing he said, however, that made me pause and reconsider his Otherness was: "Of course, if I was one of them -- these people that you seem to think are your enemies -- what would I do?" The whole "that you SEEM to think are your enemies" part was suspect to me because The Others also tend to act like they are really the good guys doing everyone a favor by "letting" them live on the island. It just was an odd thing to say if he knew nothing of The Others other than what he had learned while being held captive.
- "Henry Gale reminds me, eerily, of Kevin Spacey's character in Seven - very disturbing, evil, sadistic... and genius. A scary combination."
- "Total shout out to us for asking why people weren't more curious about things!"
- "Holy....is the prisoner an Other or a bad seed or...I don't know what to think."
- "The actor playing Henry really nailed that final speech, although, at this point, it's hard to see how anyone would doubt he's an Other."
- "If Damon Lindelof and J.J. Abrams had any sense in their brain, they would add Henry Gale to the main cast. I never thought a man who seemed so insignificant could be such a scheming catalyst. He is EXCELLENT, and he has made this episode for me."
- "I find it mind numbingly bizarre that NO one calls him on his obvious mind games. They just all sit around looking constipated whenever he says his little spiels. Well, except for Sayid. He just beat the daylights out of him."
- "That last scene. Was. Brilliant. So smart to keep the camera on Henry and not cut away to the three (trapped?) searchers. Keeping it in our imagination made it so much creepier."
- "I still don't see what finding the balloon would really prove. For all we know, Henry Gale and the other Others simply killed the real ballooners and now he's conveniently trying to pass himself off as his own victim." (e: AGREED!!!!)
- "I felt that Henry's conversation with Jack about the difference between a prophet and a martyr was significant. One definition for prophet is an effective spokesman or leader for a cause, doctrine or group. A definition for martyr is a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to denounce a religion. A hint about why he is there perhaps. Of course Jack didn't bite, saying they both end up dead. However, he did let Henry out for breakfast after that conversation."



OTHER RANDOM POSTS


- "And what were Sayid and Charlie building?"
- "Sayid and Charlie could sure use someone keen in construction, but unfortunately Michael has gone batshit. Are they maybe building a church? Raft 2.0? A Starbucks? Could be anything."
- "Michael Who?"
- "A building with a "Widmore Construction" sign showed up in "Fire + Water". Unfortunately, I haven't been able to track down that one legible screenshot that was floating around a few weeks ago. (e: Widmore was the maker of the pregnancy test Sun took as well)
- "Lots of seemingly obvious shout-outs in this ep: "People don't like me.""
- "I want to bitch-slap the writers for the needless Hurley candy-bar scene. He has the potential to be a REALLY fascinating character on this show (remember folks, he's both rich and "crazy"), but instead they're pulling this stereotypical food-hoarding comic-relief fat-dude bullshit. STOP IT. Give us some really good Hurley material (remember him outing Ethan with his census?), or else send him where Boone and Shannon went." (e: I'm pretty sure we will get better Hurley material soon, fear not)
- "Loved Jin listening to Sawyer and Bernard talk in Korean. Just cracked me up for some reason."
- "Jin hears Sawyer and Bernard talking backwards, so what would Jin hear if he had a vision of Walt?"
- "Oh, and just as everyone predicted, absolutely no mention of ANYTHING that happened last episode."
- "If I were Jack or Locke, I'd be digging into the bottom of that Dharma Cereal Box to find the secret Lost Decoder Ring."
- "Perfect... Dharma-Os, each little piece in the shape of an octagon with a little hole in the center. Maybe it comes with snake, shark, and swan-shaped marshmallows?"
- "Any name suggestions for the Kwon baby? I'm going to go with Moonshine. It'd fit with the celestial nature of Sun's name and the Jin/gin homonym that brings alcohol to mind."




BEST LINES OF THE EPISODE

[Sawyer is reading "Are you there God? It's me, Margaret."]
Sun: How's your book?
Sawyer: ...Not nearly enough sex.


ANA: So let me get this straight -- you and your wife travel around the world and crash here in a smiley-face balloon? Then she dies. You get captured by a French chick who brings you here, and then they lock you up.
GALE: It sounds kind of silly when you say it like that.


SAYID [pointing]: That cliff there appears to be this [showing the spot on the map].
ANA: Score one for Henry.
SAYID: Pointing out a geographical touchstone does not mean he's leading us to a balloon.
ANA: Maybe not, but at least we're on the right island.
[Sayid walks off.]
CHARLIE: Humor's not his strong suit. [Ana doesn't respond] And I'm saying this to you.
[They continue walking. Charlie looks around and sees Ana staring at him.]
CHARLIE: You looking at my bum?



SAWYER [entering]: Yo, Daddy-o.
JIN: Sawyer.
SAWYER: Way to go, Papa-san. You didn't waste much time. I'd give you a cigar, Bernie, but I'm fresh out.



[after creepy, threatening tirade]
Henry: You guys got any milk?



UPCOMING EPISODES

OK my friends... I have what should be the Lost episode calendar for the rest of the season... but of course I'm sure things could possibly change. Really, though, there's not much wiggle room in the schedule anymore and most sources say this is final. Here's what it currently looks like... we have 3 weeks of new episodes in a row:

03/29/06 - 'Lockdown' - My man gets caught within the blast doors?!?!?! Looks like this will be a great one. Per the preview: "5 events will happen..." My prediction: the boarders will be fighting over exactly WHAT the 5 Events were...

04/05/06 - 'Dave'

04/12/06 - 'S.O.S.'

A short break... then the drive to the finale:

05/03/06 - 'Two for the Road'

05/10/06 - Untitled... ep 21

5/17/06 - Untitled... ep 22

And then...


MARK YOUR CALENDARS! THE FINALE DATE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED

Thanks to my brother for the heads up - it will be two hours on May 24th - the finale will be episodes 23 and 24.


REALLY SHORT VERSION OF THE 'MEMORY IMPLANT' THEORY

Since I don't have a lot of time this week... just know that there is what I consider to be a HIGHLY plausible theory floating around lately about the possibility that all of the flashbacks are fake - as in, they are "memories" implanted in the minds of the Lostaways by whatever sinister force is controlling the island. The proponents of this theory claim that this would explain why characters are showing up in each others' flashbacks, as well. Further, they state that there wasn't even a plane crash - which would explain why no one was really too hurt. That's where I think it begins to fall apart... remember that dude who got chopped up by the propeller? Tell this theory to him!!!! So in short, while I think the memories possibly could be implanted, I don't think the crash was staged.



BEFORE THEY WERE LOST

Thanks to MD as well as an anonymous Comment poster for this site that shows pre-Lost video clips of Sawyer (my favorite - I REMEMBER that horrible commercial), Kate and Sayid.

Before There Were Lost

And at a separate site, here is pre-Lost Hurley (along with Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite - SWEET!)

Before Hurley was Lost, Dude.


Enjoy this week's episode, it should be a doozy.
- e


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Monday, March 20, 2006

S2Ep15 - Maternity Leave (Claire's second flashback) - 03/01/06

Hello my dear friends -

As a refresher, I'm writing about the show Lost... remember that show? The one that's hardly ever on?

As it has been a while since the last new episode aired, I will provide an extremely quick recap of the freak-show that was "Maternity Leave" before getting into the board theories. Two new writers (Dawn Lambertsen Kelly & Matt Ragghianti) got their big break with this episode, and the feeling across the boards was that they did a superb job. Most people thought this episode was in the Top 5 of the series.


EPISODE SUMMARY

Baby Aaron/Turniphead is acting up. Danielle (a.k.a. Rousseau or French Chick) wanders into the camp, alludes to "the sickness" and scares Claire even more. Jack tries to tell Claire it's nothing, but she is not convinced. Claire enlists Libby to hypnotize her so she can remember what happened during her abduction. She recalls a medical facility and is insistent upon going there. She leaves the baby with Sun and takes off into the jungle with Kate, where they encounter Danielle again. All three go into the Medical Hatch. It looks abandoned except for Seabilly costumes and a baby bootie.

Claire finally pieces together most memories from those two weeks and we learn that Ethan (who must have been some kind of doctor) was injecting her stomach with something that he said was needed for the baby. Claire was drugged most of the time, and Ethan seemed to have a gross crush on her and remained as creepy as ever. The Others wore Hillbilly costumes but normally were fairly clean-shaven... we saw "Zeke" without the costume on and he was upset that Ethan brought Claire to the hatch before making "the list." A teenage girl who looked very much like Danielle (great casting, TPTB!) helped Claire to escape after telling her that a team of scary-looking doctors planned to cut the baby out of her and leave her to die. Danielle was the one who brought Claire back to camp.

Back in the Original Hatch, Eko insists upon seeing Henry Gale (or 'Obvious Other' as he is known on the boards), and then when he does... he confesses to killing two Others, asks for forgiveness, and then randomly cuts off his beard antennae. Henry Gale makes Locke upset by insinuating that Jack is the leader and Locke just does what he says. Henry also remains creepy.
Baby Aaron did just have a passing fever and rash. He is fine. For now.



YOU WANT ANSWERS? I'LL GIVE YOU ANSWERS.

The main reason why people felt the love for this espisode is because even though it of course raised more puzzling questions, it also actually gave some key answers. I will go into most of these points in detail later on, but for now, the main questions answered were:

1) Q. Is Danielle's daughter Alex still alive? A. Yes. [Most people believe this has pretty much been confirmed as they look very much alike and Alex is the right age, even though it's not TOTALLY confirmed].

2) Q. Are there two or three sets of Others? A. No. There is only one set of Others. Zeke/Seabilly Jim, Ethan and Goodwin were all from the same group.

3) Q. What happened to Claire during the abduction? A. Covered in flashbacks.

4) Q. How did Claire escape the Others? A. With help from the inside thanks to Alex, and then from Danielle once outside of the hatch. Which answers another question...

5) Q. Is Danielle an Other, or at least helping them? A. No.

6) Q. WHY is Zeke so ridiculous looking? A. Because it was a ridiculously bad costume.


So now, let's dissect:


GRRRL POWER JUNGLE QUEST

[Cue Salt n Pepa, circa 1991]:

LADIES?!!!! All the ladies... louder now, help me out!

... this episode was so female-focused that I was half-expecting the Spice Girls to pop out and start yelling about "Girl Power!"

This post summed it up best:
"Loved the Riot Grrrl Hike. Very much enjoyed eyes-flashing baby-protecting Kate. Loved the handoff to Sun. Yay Island Sisterhood."

Even I was not annoyed by Kate this time around. Leave it to the women to start piecing together the puzzle that is The Others. Now let's just hope that, unlike the men, they TELL SOMEONE ELSE about it!!!


LISTEN (ssshhhhhh!) TO WHAT THE FLOWER PEOPLE SAY!

The title of this section is in honor of Trippy Claire... Ten "cool points" go to anyone who knows what it's from... (without Googling it, cheaters!).

As one post so subtly observed: "Drugged out Claire is so much better then hysterical screaming Claire."

The introduction of Trippy Claire led to one of the biggest points of contention on the boards: whether or not we can actually trust her flashbacks. Side A says that what we saw as viewers represented the truth - or - what actually happened. Side B says that what we saw as viewers were Claire's drugged-induced memories, some of which may not be completely real. My take is that the flashbacks were real and that we just need to go with that assumption until something proves otherwise.

Here are things to ponder from the flashbacks:

1) What's up with the Medical Hatch (also called the Caduceus Hatch, but I don't want to keep writing that out...)?

First off, in the scene where Ethan is leading Claire down the hall, there are two things you may have missed:
A. At the end of the hallway there was a little door with the words "Escape Hatch" over it.
B. The room that Claire briefly looked into before Ethan led her away was all dark wood, with ramps on either side as well as stairs in the middle leading up to a dark wooden wall (and I'm assuming a door or hidden door, couldn't tell) with lighted sconces. I immediately thought that may lead to the "main office" of the Others.


In the baby nursery room, you may have noticed that the crib had a mobile made of toy Oceanic airplanes. Well, that's comforting. Geez.

But we have actually seen a crib looking much like this before - in the nightmare Claire had at the beginning of her first flashback (Raised by Another). While the crib in her nightmare wasn't exactly identical to the one in the Medical Hatch, the plane mobile looked like it may be the same. In that nightmare, could she have been foreseeing what was going to happen to her?

Another strange thing is that the plane mobile played "Catch a Falling Star," which is the same song Claire requested the potential adoptive parents sing to her baby in her first flashback. This coincidence has led many to believe that The Others therefore were involved in some, if not all, of the characters' lives BEFORE the crash. I personally also think that they could've perhaps gotten that information some other way... I mean, we know the Smoke Monster thing scans minds, so perhaps that's how they knew she liked that song. We didn't see all two weeks of what happened to her in the Medical Hatch. Or, perhaps it was truly a coincidence.

No, it can't be. Not on this show!

2) What's up with The Others?

We learned a lot about The Others in this episode:
- They have a team of doctors on the island, of which Ethan was one.
- They were injecting into Claire the same fluid that Desmond was seen injecting into himself in the Season 2 premiere: Comparison of vials. However, no one is sure if this is truly a vaccine, or a placebo used to play mind games, or something that actually causes an illness.
- For some utterly inexplicable reason, they dress up as Sea/Hillbillies when encountering other groups of people on the island.
- They definitely wanted Claire's baby specifically, and were willing to kill her in the process of getting it. We do not know why they needed it so urgently and were not prepared to wait for her to deliver naturally.
- Whatever they are doing with the kids they take, it seems like the kids still have the chance to turn out OK (such as Alex).
- There is only one group of Others. Their M.O. is to infiltrate the camps of anyone else who lands on the island, make a list of everyone who is "good" or who they want to take for some reason, and then take them. Why they dress up and how they leave no footprints and are so stealthy, we still do not know. How we know there is only one group is that we actually witnessed Ethan talking to Clean-Shaven Zeke (by the way, in the scripts the character's name is Mr. Friendly, though he has never been referred to as that on the show itself) (if you didn't realize that was him, witness the many faces of Zeke). Zeke referred to "the list," which connects them to Goodwin, who told Ana Lucia about the list of good people he had. Therefore, Zeke, Ethan and Goodwin all seem to be from the same group.
- It sounds like there is someone The Others collectively "report to" (no one can escape The Man!). Here is the dialogue from that scene:

VOICE: What the hell happened? You were supposed to make the list and then bring her in. Was I unclear?
ETHAN: It's not my fault. They knew I wasn't on the plane. They had a manifest.
[The voice is revealed as Mr. Friendly, without his beard and grubby clothes.]
MR. FRIENDLY: What am I supposed to tell him? You know what he's going to do when he finds out. Damn it, Ethan.

- The biggest question now is: Why did The Others abandon the Medical Hatch and where are they now?


WHO IS 'HE'?

Who is the "he" that Zeke referred to? There are several theories, so I've pasted in posts that speak for each:
- "I have a feeling it is someone we know and love of the castaways."
- "Maybe, but wasn't HE supposedly going to be pissed that Ethan didn't get a list of the Lostaways? One of the main characters wouldn't need that, as they would already know everyone's names and stuff (with the possible exception of Scott/Steve)." (note: the list is supposed to be of the "good people" specifically, just not of everyone's names... )
"The "HE" whom Zeke was referring to was the same "HE" that Eko wants Henry Gale to inform that Eko is good now. So I'm tempted to think that "HE" is God." (note: Eko never referred to a "he" or "him," so I don't know what this person is talking about)
- "Desmond referred to a "Him," too, in "Adrift." He said to Locke: "Are you him?" I'm wondering if it's the same "Him" that Zeke was referring to."
- "Again, going with the theory that Henry Gale is the HE that Ethan and Zeke spoke about. "
- "As for "HE," I hope that Gerald DeGroot or Alvar Hanso will finally show up."
- No post for this theory that summed it up... but a lot of people also thought that the Smoke Monster could be "Him" - especially those that believe the EW Theory (covered in last write-up, and mentioned again below).

What do I personally think? I am figuring that "he" is either someone we do not know yet, Henry Gale, or DeGroot (U of M hippie guy who helped found the Initiative(Hanso financed it)). I'm hoping it's someone we haven't met yet.


DHARMA AND THE OTHERS
(I would make some 'Dharma and Greg' joke, but I never watched that show because Jenna Elfman annoys me. Though 'Keeping the Faith' was a good movie. I digress.)

Another point of controversy is: Are The Others PART of The Dharma Initiative, or were they test subjects who ended up taking control and now just use the Dharma facilities and resources?


BOARD MUSINGS

Here is a compilation of some of the best posts I read on the topics I've covered thus far:

- "Did they abandon the entire project or what? It's only been about 4 weeks I think? Zeke's beard and Seabilly cap. Costume glue. Thank god that was all fake because it was SO BAD. But seriously, why did they have to choose to be hillbillies? I mean, be like Ewoks or aliens or something to fit in with all the weirdness on the island - but seafaring hillbillies? I guess we now know The Others may be devious, but they sure ain't creative."
- "Very interesting twist that the other just play hillbillies on tv but are scientists in real life. But do we really know if they are working for Dharma or just overthrew the Dharma people working there?"
- "One stupid little thing that I absurdly liked was that the beard glue had a Dharma symbol on it. Dharma definitely knows the power of branding. "
Dharma Brand Glue
- "And my big question is... what happened in between Claire's escape and this ep to cause damage to the hatch? It looks like the Others still worked out of there, judging by the lockers and Zeke's beard. If that's the case, where'd they go? And why?"
- "Nice Ethan more creepy than Creepy Evil Ethan... But he IS related to Tom Cruise in real life, so you know the cra-zeeeee is in there somewhere."
- "And isn't it funny that Tom Cruise is warning us about psychiatrists and hooking our kids on drugs . Maybe Tom knows that the Dharma initiative isn't just fiction (they like to start the kids prenatally on ritalin). That's what this is, a public service announcement for Scientology and the evils of psychiatry (plus he got his cousin to participate). (Hey don't forget JJ is directing MI:3) Think about it!"
- "Why didn't Kate and Claire bring back Zeke's Lee Press-on Beard and spread the news about the new hatch? You'd think that they'd at least go scavenge whatever they could from it, or use it for shelter. What else was in those damn lockers, other than Othergear? "
- "Perhaps the Others don't want the Losties and the Tailies around because they are contaminated. Doesn't excuse kidnapping, hangings, mind games and not sharing the peanut butter from Day 1, but it's good to know that there is more to them than an episode of Scooby Doo. Sayid rips off Zeke's beard, and Zeke screams, "And I would've gotten away with keeping Aaron, if it weren't for that meddling kid!""
- "Yeah, but why? I have no idea why he would want to look all Gordon's Fishermanesque. Maybe he doesn't want the lostaways to know he's a scientist?"
- "Perhaps the Lostaways might recognize them from their respective pre-island days?"
- "Does anyone have an explanation for why the Others don't leave footprints? It seems like they are normal, if misguided, people - not ghosts or spirits. "
- "Proof that Claire is a bad mother: Do not let your baaaby suck on the knit baby bootie that you found laying on the floor of the dirty empty hatch. He is just getting over a fever and a rash!"


MORE ON THE DHARMA LOGOS - or - WHEN IS A SWAN NOT A SWAN?

ORIGINAL HATCH
Here is an interesting theory, although I still think it's a Swan:
"Is that really a swan surrounded by I Ching symbols — or is that a serpent trapped inside a snake charmer's basket? Now, click on that swan/snake (on the link below) and watch the orientation film. That music at the beginning and the end — that's snake-charmer music, people!"

Swan logo: The Dharma Initiative

(The station IS called the Swan in the orientation film, though)

SHARK LOGO
Someone on 'The Fuselage' (web site set up by the show writers) commented that the logo on Ethan's canteen was the same logo that was on the shark. See for yourself here:
Shark and Canteen Dharma Logos

Here are some posts on why this could be significant:
- "It would indicate that Ethan was in the underwater hatch when he came ashore to kill Scott (Steve? I sadly have a mental block on that and I don't mean to, honest.). I would also bet that he, or someone in the underwater hatch, took out Joanne as well. " (note: this person is talking like there definitely IS an underwater hatch, whereas that has never been stated on the show nor in anything I've read)
- "I rewatched the episode where Ethan killed Scott. Sayid said that he would have had to come ashore from the water. "


THE MORE YOU KNOW (insert chimes here)

Two MORE books were shown this episode. Here's the analysis from the boards:

Sawyer was reading "Lancelot" by Walker Percy
"This novel partly asks the question of what would Lancelot be like in our day and age? In a land where chivalry is meaningless, what happens to the epitome of chivalry?"

Locke gave Henry Gale "The Brothers Kazamarov" by Fyodor Dostoevsky
- "Probably the most well-known section of The Brothers Karamazov is a story told by one of the characters, wherein a second-coming Jesus is imprisoned and faces a Grand Inquisitor, who tells him that (essentially) the Church is in control now, and he is no longer needed or wanted."
- "Brothers Karamazov, one of the most amazing novels ever written. The most famous section is "The Grand Inquisitor" a story that Alyosha tells. The story says that Jesus returned during the Inquisition and was promptly arrested. The Inquisitor said that Jesus doomed man to fight eternally by giving him the "right to choose." So the Church and the Inquistor follow the Devil, (the Other) who makes the choice for humans. The Inquisitor is going to help save humanity from itself by eliminating choice. I'm sure I've way oversimplified it, but that's what I remember from grad school. Anyway, interesting parallel between the Dharma Initiative which seems to include the "others" who believe they are doing the right thing. Making choices for the castaways? Eliminating free will? Manipulating fate?"



EKO AND HIS TREES, PART DEUX

Nobody has any new theories on why Eko is back to marking and cutting down trees. The two main contenders remain: 1) To build a church or 2) To perhaps form a pattern that can be seen from above. That would have to be pretty big...


NOT BY THE HAIRS ON MY CHINNY-CHIN-CHIN...

In order to properly assess the bizarre Eko/Henry Gale scene, I must be sure you remember it, so here is the transcript from that part, I added in some of the comments in brackets:

EKO [enters the room looking huge and menacing, then extends his hand to shake]: Hello. I am Mr. Eko.
GALE: [looks like he is going to pee his pants] Henry Gale.
EKO: Do you mind if I sit, Henry?
GALE: [bug-eyed and scared] Okay.
EKO: How long have you been in here?
GALE: 2 days.
EKO: Are they treating you well?
GALE: Treating me well? I'm a prisoner; and I don't know why, or for what, or...
EKO: You are a prisoner because they are being careful. They are being careful because they believe you are lying.
GALE: Why would I lie? They think I'm one of these others -- other what?
EKO: Please, stop talking, Henry. The first night I spent on this island I was dragged into the jungle by 2 men. They never spoke a word to me, nor I to them. I killed these men -- smashed in their head with a stone, felt their blood on my arms. I need you to know how sorry I am for this. I need you to know that I am back on the righteous path now. And that I regret my actions. I ask you for your forgiveness.
GALE: Why are you telling me this?
EKO: Because I needed to tell someone.
[Eko pulls out a knife in a threatening manner, but uses it to cut off the 2 longer strands on his beard. Eko exits.]

The best line of the night was not from the show, but from my friend EG, who was watching at my place. After that scene was over, he stated: "I think he had him at 'Hello.'"


So back to the scene... first off, I nearly fainted when I thought Eko was going to slit his own throat. I was ready to write some major hate mail.

I could try to explain all the theories on the boards about this scene, but instead I have pulled some of the best posts once again to make the important points:
- "I'll miss Eko's chin pigtails."
- "Regarding the beard cutting: in certain religious traditions, cutting the hair is a sign of penance (and in some a sign of mourning, but I'm going for penance in this case)."
- "Eko believes Gale is one of The Others, and that is why he confessed his regret to him, as a representative of the 2 he killed."
- "I don't know and I don't care just as long as those two annoying beard antennae are GONE. "
- "I really hope this "Keeping track of one's body count in your facial hair" thing catches on."
- "Eko's little warning to Henry was understood by both men. It was a nice way of saying "Don't make me have to hurt you." AAA can go from nice to menacing in about 30 seconds. Tony Soprano ain't got nothing on him. Great acting in the ep. Great episode IMO."

Shout-out to Brett who called in the "comments" section of my last post that the Henry Gale scenes were a play on a Twilight Zone episode. As Entertainment Weekly also noted; "The episode is actually an elaborate homage to the classic Twilight Zone episode 'The Howling Man,' in which a reclusive religious order captures a man suspected of being Satan. YOU MUST WATCH ''THE HOWLING MAN''! The phrases ''Dharma,'' ''Lost,'' and ''One of Them'' are all conspicuously referenced. Am I suggesting that Dharma was trying to capture Satan, or perhaps cure mankind of ''original sin''? Maybe. But at the very least, these devilish little details — combined with the Skinner-box nature of the Hatch — strongly suggest that nothing is what it seems when it comes to the Dharma Initiative."


VIVE LA FRANCE!

I must admit that I got a little choked up at the end of the episode when Claire tells Danielle that there is indeed a young woman named Alex with The Others, and that she is "good." I repeat, they did a great job casting, see for yourself: Like Mother, Like Daughter

Interesting thought on Danielle, with which I agree:
- "Anyone else think it's just a matter of time before Danielle is assimilated into the group? Probably will not move her stuff into camp or anything like that, she's been alone too long, but she is gradually becoming a trusted ally. For better or for worse."


REGARDING AARON

Yes, the baby is unbelievably huge. And supposedly he is only 15 days old. Some mega-intense guy who runs a great site made this timeline for the show (not sure if this is all accurate, but it's got to be close): The Lost Timeline




DAMMIT, LOCKE!!!!

OK, so Locke kind of let his emotions get the best of him at the end of the episode, and had a violent reaction to Gale's insinuations that Jack was the leader and Locke was just second fiddle. Those watching with me can attest that I was moaning, "Locke.... no!!!!!" And I still say to Locke: BE A MAN! BE THE MAN THAT I KNOW YOU ARE!!!!! Don't let Obvious Other get to you?!?!

But hear me now and believe me later... I am NOT going to abandon my Locke Fandom just because Locke may turn out to be crazy. I'm no fair-weather friend! Just ask all of my truly crazy friends! Hee hee. Anyway, 'sadly naive people with good intentions' are a personal weakness of mine, and Locke continues to break my heart. But of course, I actually do not think he's going to turn out to be crazy... though I do think there are already major signs of disullusionment. Here are some great posts on the subject:

- "Island Locke is different than Flashback Locke. I think Locke likes to present himself as one thing on the island. But in reality (hah!), he's weak and easily manipulated. As someone else said, his father manipulated him out of a kidney. Something happened with Helen. We don't know the whole story, but I think that Locke's facade is crumbling fast."
- "Locke's idea that island had mystical powers and he would be some sort of Island priest was squashed (for him) with the mechanics of the Darma hatch. Now he doesn't know his place and he's floundering."
- "With regard to Locke being easily manipulated when that doesn't seem to fit with his character, let's not forget that Sawyer has already summed up this season's theme for us: "A tiger don't change it's stripes." In the first season, everyone surprised us by being different than they first appeared. This season, we've seen Sawyer be a conman at heart, Hurley be the fat guy hoarding food, Sayid become a torturer again, Claire go back to "mystical" practices, Charlie go back to hoarding heroin... it can't just be a coincidence. Thus, Locke is simply proving Sawyer's prophetic words; he's going back to what he was at the beginning: an easily manipulated person."
- "Could Locke's hissy fit have been a deliberate show? He *knows* that the walls are thin... maybe this is the resurrection of CraftyLocke, who used to make plans and manipulate people, not just sit around pushing buttons. His expression works against this idea, I'll admit. But imagine Locke entering into a pretend alliance with Henry -- wouldn't that be clever of him?"
- "Locke is definitely losing it... I'm assuming that this will lead into the next Locke episode, if he doesn't go completely nuts before he reaches a flashback. Someone upthread pointed out that despite his walkabout fantasies he's really just a guy who works for a box company whose parents screwed him up royally."

*Sigh*


BEST LINES OF THE EPISODE

LOCKE: We can't hide him down here forever. Changing shifts around is going to get people asking questions. I just want to know what the long term plan is.
JACK: Well, John, let me ask you this: we don't have a long term plan for the button but we keep pushing it, don't we? Look, until we know who he is -- whether or not he's telling the truth -- we have to keep doing what we're doing. If you've got a better idea let's hear it.
GALE [very faintly, from the cell]: How 'bout you let me go?!?!?! (note: I don't know if that was meant to be funny, but it was to me)




KATE: I need a gun. And you don't get to ask why.
SAWYER: Well, Thelma, seeing as I got all the guns, I do get to ask why.



JACK [to Eko]: Be careful what you say to him. He's smart and curious. Just give us a shout when you're done.
LOCKE: If the alarm goes off, don't tell him what it's for.
[pause]
EKO: What is it for?
[Jack and Locke look at each other sheepishly]



UPCOMING EPISODES

Are you ready? There (so far) are THREE new episodes IN A ROW coming up... and perhaps more. But this is all I can see right now... I've also included the fourth episode from now but do not know when that will air.

This week - 3/22/06: 'The Whole Truth.' Hmmm, on the previews Sun is asking Sawyer for a pregnancy test. That can't be a good thing on Craphole Island.

3/29/06: 'Lockdown.' Let's just say I will be very happy with this episode. Can you guess who it is about?


4/05/06: 'Dave.' What looks like another good episode that will deal with a character who is a fan favorite and perhaps shed light on one of the biggest questions out there.

TBD: 'S.O.S.' Limited information on this one right now.

Forewarning - I am traveling for a while, including this weekend, so the post for The Whole Truth will probably go up late Tuesday night, the 28th.


NO LIE, SOMEONE FIGURED THIS OUT

In the last episode, "One of Them" (Sayid's flashback), there were two hidden audio tracks. You will need to scroll down on these first two links to read the transcripts that are scattered throughout the threads:
One of Them Hidden Audio Script, Part 1

One of Them Hidden Audio Script, Part 2

As Henry is specifically mentioned in these whispers, it makes him seem to be an Other (if The Others are indeed the ones whispering).

If you are interested in reading ALL of the hidden audio in the series to date (there is a lot, believe it or not!), bookmark this page, to which they continue to add links:
Hidden Audio Track Script Master Thread



BROKEBACK ISLAND

Yes, we are ALL SICK AND TIRED of Brokeback Mountain jokes. However, since this video clip is Lost-related, I felt it was my duty to pass along... a clever compilation of Sawyer and Jack scenes.

Brokeback Island


IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS...

Here is a page keeping a running list of several Lost-related videos that fans have made. Yes, I've seen the Locke one with the Darth Vader music but I thought it was kind of lame so I didn't call it out specifically here.

Lost Video Fan Collection


REQUIEM FOR AN ARONOFSKY EPISODE, FOR NOW

At some point last year I reported that I had read director Darren Aronofsky was going to take the helm of an episode of Lost. He had to back out on that for the time being. I'm kind of glad, as his movies scare me.

Article on Aronofsky


FOR JACK BAUER POWER HOUR (A.K.A. 24 ) FANS

- In case you didn't notice... the Russian president was also Claire's psychic. And it appears from the previews (I watch 24 later in the week, so this episode already aired) that Desmond is also now on 24.

Here are some funny 24-and-Lost-related posts:
- "The only way for their leadership to get worse would be for President Logan to show up on the island and replace Jack & Locke."
- "Mr. Eko would have the best staredown ever with Jack Bauer."


EW READERS RESPOND TO THE EW THEORY (NOW CALLED 'THE AARON THEORY')

If you never read the original 5 part theory from Entertainment Weekly, it is here:

Original EW/Aaron Theory

Here is a Q & A about the theory that gets more detailed:

Reader Questions about the EW Theory


To post comments, click on the Comments link below. You don't have to have a username or log in or anything. I post comments after I review them, typically each night.

Until next week,
- e